Thanks as always, Nicolas!

Oct 02, 2017,09:15 AM
 

I agree with you that the skeleton hands does a disservice to this chronograph.  I'm guessing they designed it this way to make sure the information on the dial is blocked as little as possible?  My second gripe with this piece is the absence of a second hand.  How are we supposed to know how accurate the watch is without this vital piece of information?  Plus it seems to me that a watch specifically designed for timing purposes should be able to measure this basic unit of time.  I also agree with you that the date window pretty much ruins the basic Master Control model - especially with this sector dial.


All that being said, the watch looks really cool in person and that alone could possibly melt away the gripes.


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Jaeger Lecoultre Master Chronograph Sector Dial, the true story behind the watch.

 
 By: amanico : September 28th, 2017-07:04
At the SIHH this year, Jaeger Lecoultre unveiled three new versions from the Master Line, the Master Control, the Master Géographique, and the Master Chronograph, to celebrate the 25th anniversary of this family. Three new versions, let's say in a more ac...  

“Experience always wins the day”

 
 By: Alkiro1 : September 28th, 2017-07:16
Very interesting to see that this modern style (at first sight) was not so modern. Now I better understand this subtle “Art déco” style. Best wishes Alkiro

Thanks for reading. [nt]

 
 By: amanico : September 28th, 2017-07:20

Very interesting find!

 
 By: Prodyutb : September 28th, 2017-07:44
Now we know. Thanks. I agree with your take on the date time version. On the chrono though, the skeleton hands actually work very smartly, keeping everything open and legible. I am certain these hands would be quite difficult to produce with perfect symme... 

Then, maybe they should have considered other hands altogether :-)

 
 By: Clavi : October 4th, 2017-01:53
form and function, you know..... If you are going for a 1930's inspired sector dial, then why consider luminous on hands ? makes absolutely no sense. At least make hands consistant with intended design spirit !

+++1. Thanks, Clavi. [nt]

 
 By: amanico : October 4th, 2017-02:34

Nothing 'modern' about those hands

 
 By: Clavi : October 4th, 2017-01:51
Those hollow-hands are actually mock-ups of the luminous, radium-filled hands that were common in the 1940's, so normally not 'skeleton' per say (they were always meant to be filled with luminous). There is nothing very modern in them, appart from the inc... 

Agreed, here again. [nt]

 
 By: amanico : October 4th, 2017-02:35

This has me wondering

 
 By: Clavi : October 4th, 2017-01:56
Why on earth do we only see this pocket chronograph today, and why hasn't it ever shown during the launch of the 'sector dial' revamped master line ? Given how JLC likes to draw lines with the past, I find it weird that it comes down to you to make the pa... 

Nice Chrono

 
 By: RG1 : September 28th, 2017-08:15
Good job for JLC. What a lovely dial....

That pocket watch is sublime! I agree about the hands. I think the new chrono is a fresh look, in spite of

 
 By: watchthatman : September 28th, 2017-08:16
Areas where you point out it could be better. One question I have - does the new chrono have a seconds hand for telling time, or is that only dedicated to the chrono function?

I love this sector hands, but Im not sure that I will continiou to love them afther a while ?

 
 By: M@ster : September 28th, 2017-08:23
I also agree with the word automatic on the dial and on watches in general these days, they should find a more modern synonyme for this word. Something more tech. and more advanced. Or just leave it blanc and only known by the people that know 😉 But some ... 

Thanks for the insights on the sector dial! 👍🏻

 
 By: MCG (Markus) : September 28th, 2017-08:48
I do agree that is is a handsome dial. I also agree and would have preferred blued feuilles hands. It is a while ago, but I heard an interview with the ex. CEO of JLC - shortly before he left, or had to leave - that this version will not going to be conti... 

Very cool...I actually love the hands

 
 By: brandon1 : September 28th, 2017-09:47
Of the new one. I like the syringe shape, but I don’t like lume on this sort of watch, so it’s ideal for me. Thanks for the report and sharing this info! I hope you had a good time in Le Sentier! Best, Brandon

A great watch

 
 By: NoH : September 28th, 2017-11:14
Which feels wonderful on the wrist. I had the pleasure of being very very tempted over the weekend in the Rome boutique...but alas, have not yet pulled the trigger as I feel the Memovox calling to me... And my wife also had some fun... Surprisingly, while...  

Really nice piece

 
 By: vitalsigns : September 28th, 2017-14:59
Looks even better in person than in photos. I saw it in person a few weeks ago, and it is very tempting. Great relative value, too. One minor gripe is the font used in the subdials. A more classic font would have been better. Thanks for posting a picture ... 

The font of the subdials? I re checked, I am not sure to understand. You think the font is too similar to the pocket watch? As for the movement, I took a picture...

 
 By: amanico : September 28th, 2017-22:10
But I lost all the series of pictures I took during my last visit to the Manufacture, in July... Will take some other pictures when I am back to the Manufacture. Best, John. Nicolas

I don't prefer the font style used in the subdial of the Master version.

 
 By: vitalsigns : September 29th, 2017-16:31
Otherwise great watch, and tres tempting!

Ah, ok, thanks, John. [nt]

 
 By: amanico : September 29th, 2017-23:57

Nicolas, thank you for the interesting context in which to consider this dial. But...

 
 By: remarque : September 28th, 2017-19:33
as I look at it, and think about other two subdial chronos, I can't help but think that the subdials are placed too close to the center axis, and the subdial size further aggravates this issue. Is it because the movement was designed for a smaller case, s...  

As for the Master Control, yes, the presence of the date is, for me, a deal breaker. JLC has one manual winding central second hand, the Duometre.

 
 By: amanico : September 28th, 2017-22:06
But no central second with a manual winding movement in a lower segment, I meant. Back to the Master Chronograph sector dial, yes ,the subdials are centered, but I am not too disturbed by that. Probably a slightly smaller case, let's say 39 or 38 mm would... 

Pocket watch for me!

 
 By: MichaelC : September 29th, 2017-19:53
That is stunning. I won't hold my breath though.

A Rattrapante Duometre with that pocket watch dial and hands?

 
 By: cory : September 30th, 2017-12:16
That pocket watch is stunning!

I am slowly catching up with all the posts I missed during my absence and...

 
 By: Mike H : September 30th, 2017-11:59
...big thanks for this very insightful post dear Nico. I read it thoroughly from A to Z and my conclusion is... - I better understand and like the chrono reedition but not to the extent to pull the trigger - the pocket watch has just the very exact dial d... 

Interesting read.. Very nice pictorial !.. Historically interesting, with quite some DNA from that fine Rattrapente.. If I like it ?,,

 
 By: hs111 : October 1st, 2017-03:45
Yes, BUT.. I still feel a bit missing the seconds hand; somehow it's more a habit having something that shows running, but not than a true negative, for sure ! Colored blue indices & the 2-tone are pleasant, yes.. Well, the hands are no real deal breaker ... 

Thanks as always, Nicolas!

 
 By: jimly : October 2nd, 2017-09:15
I agree with you that the skeleton hands does a disservice to this chronograph. I'm guessing they designed it this way to make sure the information on the dial is blocked as little as possible? My second gripe with this piece is the absence of a second ha... 

Thank you for sharing this, Nico Very interesting.

 
 By: ztirual : October 3rd, 2017-11:09
- You mention the Vintage is it? Is that JLC's Heritage department? Can you shed some morelight on that? At Longines they have 6 people employed full time at their Heritage Dpt., including art historians, involved around their superb museum, organising e... 

Thank you for your response, Nico.

 
 By: ztirual : October 4th, 2017-13:42
I had also heard that there was just one man. Best Z'

I finally checked this piece out over the weekend ..

 
 By: Echi : October 3rd, 2017-19:05
With forum comments and articles in mind, the thing that really left me cold about this one is the syringe hands. Granted that it may actually be a good "technical" implementation to make reading time a bit more interesting and, well, legible, leaf hands ... 

Hmm, with a slightly smaller font for the 12 and 6 and just a bit smaller sector divisionstripes

 
 By: Robert_ : October 6th, 2017-05:43
the 'ring ' could be wider (moving it all thinner to the side of dial) and the subdiales could be further apart. I would also think a darker blue on the subdiales would improve the balance. Looking at the pocketwatch that would refine it significantly in ... 

Just one comment on the blue color...

 
 By: vitalsigns : October 6th, 2017-11:44
It is much more subdued in person. Seems more bright in pictures. Cheers, John

Thanks for enlightening, but...

 
 By: Semper Fidelis : October 16th, 2017-08:28
...I couldn't resist this Chronograph's charm even before reading you shedding light into the background of the dial! Indeed a great piece to wear, in my opinion the nicest of the current JLC Chronos, nicely omitting the running seconds and the date windo... 

Amazing

 
 By: Jurry : October 22nd, 2017-00:47
Without your post I would never have made the link with this past timepiece. True eye opener. Thanks for that. The new timepieces have just become more lively and interesting for me. On the hands however I tend to disagree: the new open hands are, in my h... 

Warming up to this one

 
 By: Mr.Gatsby : November 1st, 2017-11:01
Will you get one ?

Had the chance to put this one on my wrist for a bit.....

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : November 2nd, 2017-02:43
.....actually a really alluring watch......

Great spot!

 
 By: iamcalledryan : November 14th, 2017-18:25
BtW I have an incoming JLC I will share soon!

Does it give the game away if I ask you...

 
 By: iamcalledryan : November 15th, 2017-15:33
...do you or anyone here know the lug width on the new Master Geographic (sector dial)?!

20 mm, I think. [nt]

 
 By: amanico : November 15th, 2017-15:38

Thanks!

 
 By: iamcalledryan : November 15th, 2017-16:01
I hope to post pictures this weekend!